CvC and the Gentlemans Agreement

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Post by Lir'ana » Wed Jun 01, 2005 8:16 pm

Have to agree with Aiq on that one. Plus the cr doesn't mean everything like someone said before. I know a couple characters like Grimm and Vincent for instance that only come up as challenging to me. Both can wupp my butt quite easily ((speaking from experience here lol)).

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Post by [ArcanE] » Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:34 pm

Thanks for the reply Aiq, didn't look at it that way yet. Only problem is that this doesn't apply to all of us.

Take a mage for instance, they often don't have scars or incredible strength through physical appearance, and their high intelligence often only shows in conversation. They might even wander around wearing just some lumps or a simple robe and still have tremendous power. CR's works in some occasions and in some it doesn't, but i guess that's how alot of things are. I now think everybody need to decide for himself what's best and how to roleplay CR's.
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Post by Enverex » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:03 pm

[ArcanE] wrote:Thanks for the reply Aiq, didn't look at it that way yet. Only problem is that this doesn't apply to all of us.

Take a mage for instance, they often don't have scars or incredible strength through physical appearance, and their high intelligence often only shows in conversation. They might even wander around wearing just some lumps or a simple robe and still have tremendous power. CR's works in some occasions and in some it doesn't, but i guess that's how alot of things are. I now think everybody need to decide for himself what's best and how to roleplay CR's.
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Post by silverdragonams » Wed Jun 01, 2005 10:39 pm

[ArcanE] wrote:Thanks for the reply Aiq, didn't look at it that way yet. Only problem is that this doesn't apply to all of us.

Take a mage for instance, they often don't have scars or incredible strength through physical appearance, and their high intelligence often only shows in conversation.
heheheh...not all mages have high intelligence. But, I would guess that anyone would get a feeling of "power" radiating from a high level mage. And I would thinhk the same of a monk or psion too. Any character who is very in tune with energy; be it magical, mental, or chi; might have an "aura" of it about them.

Anyway...thats how I've always seen it. DM's please feel free to smack me around a bit if I'm wrong. :D
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Post by [ArcanE] » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:20 pm

IMO it's not because you are a powerfull magic user you constantly have an aura surrounding you thats noticable to everybody. When a wizard wants he can radiate power through his magics but imo he can as well just sit there looking like commoner to most people. A mage isn't that physically obvious like a muscled fighter is (unless you are the long white beard kinda wizard)

That's how i think about it ... correct me if i'm wrong, i didn't bother looking it up in the DMG.
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Post by silverdragonams » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:47 pm

That's how i think about it ... correct me if i'm wrong, i didn't bother looking it up in the DMG.
Honestly, neither did I, but thats how my PnP DM used to play it. And I didn't mean it would be an obvious aura...more like "you walk past the wizard and a shiver runs down your spine". Or kinda like the vauge feeling you migh get in RL when you meet a Martial Arts master or a very wise elderly person.
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Post by Zombie » Thu Jun 02, 2005 4:26 am

I say wings and blue glowing eyes all round!

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Post by Enverex » Thu Jun 02, 2005 10:45 am

Zombie wrote:I say wings and blue glowing eyes all round!
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Post by Aiquandol » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:15 am

kinda like the vauge feeling you migh get in RL when you meet a Martial Arts master or a very wise elderly person.
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Post by Psye Shaar » Thu Jun 02, 2005 11:38 am

I would agree that you would sense something, especially from the likes of powerful arcane and divine magic users and to a point, powerful druids too. As has been said, they would almost radiate that power to a certain extent.

Monks would undoubtedly carry themselves in a certain way, although it would depend on how and where they were taught.. as well as the fact that the epic monk's eyes would give them away... A good example of this would be a monk that Terry Prattchett uses called Lu Tze.. to any around him, a humble sweeper, but actually monk of incredible power... (main reference would be Thief of Time, but he pops up in a few books)

Psions though I don't believe anyone would know about - my reasoning behind this is that a psion can open a path to someone's mind without that person ever knowing (ignoring the the fact you can see your will save on the screen and unless of course it's another psion who would sense it). This in mind, there is no 'power' to be sensed unless it's displayed. I suppose an observant person may notice them looking at people a little more intently, but that's up to each persons individual perspective.

I could of course just be talking out of my arse with none of the above being at all correct, but hey, it's how I see it :P
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Post by NWDuneAuron » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:09 pm

Note also that some people can give conflicting messages in appearance. Jadrienne walks around in plain black robes, and looks like a weedy, poorly fed elf - she's also a palemaster of not inconsiderable power. It doesn't show.

Another good example is Luagha, who is illiterate and walks around in common clothes. He looks like a commoner - until he melts your brains.

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Post by Psye Shaar » Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:20 pm

*grumbles* Not all psions go round melting brains.... just the bored ones :twisted:
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Post by oneioscope » Thu Jun 02, 2005 2:05 pm

My char likes to cast Bigby's Interposing Hand on people every once in a great while, just stand there at a distance and chuckle. It kinda sucks when someone uses it as an excuse to try killing me while my char is still just standing there doing absolutely nothing. I really wouldn't consider that attacking someone, especially if my char isn't buffed what so ever and/or holding a weapon. It's should be easy to tell the difference if someone is using a spell to harm you or if they're only playing. It's quite lame if the one character can't defend themselves and gets deathplaned before they're able to cast their first spell or pull out a weapon. *slaps forehead* Kinda lame. LOL.

I oughta give peeps a reason to attack my char by casting Bigby's Crushing Hand, deathplane them before they have a fighting chance, stick around for them to return to their corpse and wait for them to buff themselves for a real fight :D
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Post by [ArcanE] » Thu Jun 02, 2005 6:07 pm

NWDuneAuron wrote:Note also that some people can give conflicting messages in appearance. Jadrienne walks around in plain black robes, and looks like a weedy, poorly fed elf - she's also a palemaster of not inconsiderable power. It doesn't show.

Another good example is Luagha, who is illiterate and walks around in common clothes. He looks like a commoner - until he melts your brains.
Something like that yes :)

Hasn't it ever happened to you you were talking to some guy or woman when lateron someone told you he or she is a celebrity or a famous politician or business man? I'm sure that if i were to drop Bill Gates next to my GF in the couch she wouldn't even bother to offer him a drink. She's rather throw him out and curse me for letting that weird nerd in.

I know we are playing in a magical fantasy setting but still i think arcane magic is nothing that radiates or you get a vague feeling of unless the practitioner really wants to radiate or show his power (through clothing, staff or protection aura's, ...)

As far as i know arcane magic is something that is learnt, not gained like the divine powers of a priest. I'd rather believe a priest radiates power even if he doesn't want to than an arcane wizard. Unless ofcourse the wizard has been altered in a physical way and become a magical being like a lich or something.

Just my opinion, and do make something clear, i'll play by any of the DM's rules.
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