Gregpooh wrote:Perhaps, because he used Almara as a mechanism to get the CO involved, (and perhaps because of some of what Tholoth pointed out in the history) some people felt the event was going to be the CO's bailiwick. That seems to run counter to what was stated publicly and was likely the cause of much of the confusion/consternation
Actually, the original Dragon that was the starting point of the event introduced itself as a messenger of Bahamut and that Bahamut requested the assistance of the Celestial Order and it's friends. Pretty conclusive I'd say.
Sara is the only true faithful of Bahamut and Almara is the founder and overall controlling power of the Celestial Order. That these two gods are pulling the strings for this event which again is a fairly blatent indication of who it's aimed at.
T wrote:After IC bashing the guild these players expected the guild to invite them to their events.
This still occurs now and quite frankly, annoys the hell out of us. I hate to break it to those that want to jump on the CO-bashing bandwagon, but then play friends the following week - we collectively have long memories and as has been stated before - extensive IC information on people that the order has any reason to dislike or not trust. This information is not restricted purely to 'evil' PC's.
Tremayne wrote:I hope I have never shown anything to the members of the CO to be construed that Aria is not trustworthy or of evil intent. Granted being a CG character, she doesn't necessarily like following military orders (and if a greater good is served ignoring them, she will do so), but she won't go out of her way to outright ignore them. Like most people, she will follow reasonable orders.
And I think members of the Order who know her well, will vouch for her. At least I hope so.
I refer you once again to my previous point. Alignments are not the only things we watch as a guild. Character actions are also a big part of who we will trust and/or share information with - which in turn dictates who we as a guild will or won't invite on missions. I'm not singling you out here, simply using it as a hypothetical example.
Tremayne wrote:I was at the training mission when the dragon first appeared. (See Xune's notes as to who attended) So I knew about the "event" from the "beginning" so's to speak. I consider that an IC reason to show up or to be "invited".
Unfortunately here you are mistaken. While you may see this as an IC reason to be involved, it is ~not~ a reason for the CO as a guild to feel it necessary to include you.
Silverdragonams wrote:And not to be bitchy, but I should also add a warning that the people who are participating in this plot are being closely watched IC'ly. Remember you guys are dealing with a LG organisation. Whether you were invited by us, the "gods", or you just showed up, if we deem you untrustworthy because of your IC actions, you can expect some unpleasant IC consequences.
This is the point which is so often glossed over when convenient by people in plots. While Arkon has the final say on who he does and doesn't include in these plots, it has no bearing in the slightest on how they will be viewed and/or dealt with by the CO. We are not going to metagame and ignore our own PC's alignment's, belief's and consideration's just so that other people can join in as the best of friends for all the DM love.
One final point I would like to make to all those that didn't receive a direct invite. I have seen nothing in my inbox requesting information or to join the mission and neither has Sara. Even just an emote on the boards that you're hanging around the keep at least indicates interest. Once again, this is not a direct stab at anyone, just a suggestion that you could try contacting us now and again rather than just turning up on the guild's doorstep when you know there's an event. We're by no means perfect and there were a ~lot~ of people that turned up Easter Sunday so it wouldn't have hurt for people to also contact us and then you would have been told IC'ly if you were invited. Had we said no and Arkon said yes, again, that's his call.
I'm not going to be drawn any further into this discussion because to be honest, it just annoys me when posts like this appear when they could have been dealt with privately. Apparently contrary to popular belief, we're not out to steal the limelight and this will be the first specifically CO run event in a long, long time, so excuse us if we get just a little peeved when we're then accused of not OOC'ly (and yes, it is purely OOC'ly) inviting every Tom, Dick and Harry along for the ride.
It's Arkon's plot and if he wished to inlvolve you, so be it. How this will be received IC'ly, you will just have to find out.
[i]"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction." [/i]
Blaise Pascal (1623 - 1662)