tieflings casting darkness?
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tieflings casting darkness?
The Darkness ability is listed for tieflings on the website... are they supposed to get it, or has that been removed? My tiefling can't cast Darkness.
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We used to have them. AAsimar/Tiefling Light/Darkness but something broke with some autobic or creater or something that i have no clue about and we haven't been able to cast out inate abilities for a while now.
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And it takes 2 rounds to use that item and does not work in lag at all...makeshiftwings wrote:I've seen some worlds that just give tieflings/aasimars a no-drop, lore item that casts the spell once per day. Not exactly elegant, but it would get around the anti-cheater code.
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It's also the best you're going to get.slave_of_emotions wrote:And it takes 2 rounds to use that item and does not work in lag at all...makeshiftwings wrote:I've seen some worlds that just give tieflings/aasimars a no-drop, lore item that casts the spell once per day. Not exactly elegant, but it would get around the anti-cheater code.
If you hotkey it, it will only take 1 round, just like any ability or spell...slave_of_emotions wrote:And it takes 2 rounds to use that item and does not work in lag at all...makeshiftwings wrote:I've seen some worlds that just give tieflings/aasimars a no-drop, lore item that casts the spell once per day. Not exactly elegant, but it would get around the anti-cheater code.
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Yeah, I never noticed it taking two rounds. It worked the same as any other wand or item.Kat J wrote:If you hotkey it, it will only take 1 round, just like any ability or spell...slave_of_emotions wrote:And it takes 2 rounds to use that item and does not work in lag at all...makeshiftwings wrote:I've seen some worlds that just give tieflings/aasimars a no-drop, lore item that casts the spell once per day. Not exactly elegant, but it would get around the anti-cheater code.
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I'm surprised Svirfs don't get nondetection already, seeing as it should be part of the scrying scripts...
I feel really sorry for Svirfs. They lose a feat and a stat point from the ECL, get stat points that start at -6 of the norm, get fairly second rate specials (blind, blur, +3ish cha, scrying protection) and get a few AC and saving throw bonuses to make up for it. Still, nobody ever said anything about fairness.
Doc, do you get spell resistance? I think you should but it doesn't list it here
I feel really sorry for Svirfs. They lose a feat and a stat point from the ECL, get stat points that start at -6 of the norm, get fairly second rate specials (blind, blur, +3ish cha, scrying protection) and get a few AC and saving throw bonuses to make up for it. Still, nobody ever said anything about fairness.
Doc, do you get spell resistance? I think you should but it doesn't list it here
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Also when hidden... not only invisible.Kat J wrote:Non-detection as per 2nd Ed meant that if you were invisible (magically) you still couldn't be seen by any spell that would normally reveal you (True Seeing, See Invisibility, etc) but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
hmm... with Deep Gnome it isn't a spell it is something they have when they are born so.. so it wouldn't be able to be dispelled.Kat J wrote:but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
Non-detection isn't in NWN, and rightfully so considering it would mean anyone with 1 point in Hide or the invisibility spell could never be seen by anyone else ever, which is plain silly.warbosspeter1 wrote:Also when hidden... not only invisible.Kat J wrote:Non-detection as per 2nd Ed meant that if you were invisible (magically) you still couldn't be seen by any spell that would normally reveal you (True Seeing, See Invisibility, etc) but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
hmm... with Deep Gnome it isn't a spell it is something they have when they are born so.. so it wouldn't be able to be dispelled.Kat J wrote:but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
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no first it is only for magic... meens that if you have 20 points in spot you will throw a d20 plus the 20 pts you have in spot is let's say 36. I have 30 pts in hide.. i throw a d20 to and i trow a 5. 30+5 is 35. you see me.Kat J wrote:Non-detection isn't in NWN, and rightfully so considering it would mean anyone with 1 point in Hide or the invisibility spell could never be seen by anyone else ever, which is plain silly.warbosspeter1 wrote:Also when hidden... not only invisible.Kat J wrote:Non-detection as per 2nd Ed meant that if you were invisible (magically) you still couldn't be seen by any spell that would normally reveal you (True Seeing, See Invisibility, etc) but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
hmm... with Deep Gnome it isn't a spell it is something they have when they are born so.. so it wouldn't be able to be dispelled.Kat J wrote:but ND and Invis could still be dispelled.
Now if you cast Clairaudience/Clairvoyance you would get +10 to youre spot and listen checks.. so you will have 46 in spot instead of 36.
Now i have nondetection and the 10 points you will not get so while for others that don't have nondetection you have 46 for me you will have 36 pts in spot.
As for the invis... yes that is true nobody will be able to see you when you are invis. But for normaly it is a spell and only lasts so long. With Deep Gnome you do give three lvl's up for it and you will have it always...
I would say to keep it balanced only do nondetection on the Deep Gnomes for hiding and not for invis. So that way you will still be able to see him if youre spot/listen is high enough.
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I don't think it's possible to implement. It'll just end up scrying protection I reckon.
You could use a script that asks if a svirfneblin is invisible or hidden and give them sancturary, which allows itself to be beaten by those percieving the svirfneblin (you'd have to get the script to check spot and listen instead of percieving though, because under sancturary you should be impossible to percieve). It'd be hard to script tho...
You could use a script that asks if a svirfneblin is invisible or hidden and give them sancturary, which allows itself to be beaten by those percieving the svirfneblin (you'd have to get the script to check spot and listen instead of percieving though, because under sancturary you should be impossible to percieve). It'd be hard to script tho...
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Scrying is one of many non-combat spells on Hala
It allows you to see anyone and what they're doing without them seeing you
Basically farsight
And you can do it without a DM present, just like teleporting, making your alignment undetectable
It allows you to see anyone and what they're doing without them seeing you
Basically farsight
And you can do it without a DM present, just like teleporting, making your alignment undetectable
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