*sigh*

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:53 pm

T'Holoth Shadowborn wrote: and without a sword, or armor, or helaing potions, or spells...
sheesh

Exactly

my sword does no damage
my armor does not protect enoguht from epic fighter base atack bonus
healing potions go out
offensive spells go out faster then barbarians hitpoints and potions

R.I.P. Methael

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:54 pm

Sable wrote:hold person cos his will save will suck big time

(helped by a good prime stat and greater spell focus in enchantment)

yes that was the first step but what then ? 400 Hitpoints... Thats alot fireballs

Idonia · Post by **Idonia** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:09 pm

You all are so lucky you can even play. *Bawls*

*sniffle*PC+*sniffle*

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:41 pm

upholstery_imp wrote:You all are so lucky you can even play. *Bawls*

*sniffle*PC+*sniffle*

*pets head*

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:07 pm

Your stuck in the shot for shot mentality though.

A wizard shouldn't be able to melee a wizard.
A wizard should be able to snap their fingers and kill a fighter.
A rogue should be able to sneak up and kill most people if they catch them off guard, said rogue should be able to run away.

Didn't Ed the uber fighter have some crazy low will save or something?

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:13 pm

T'Holoth Shadowborn wrote: A wizard should be able to snap their fingers and kill a fighter.
Didn't Ed the uber fighter have some crazy low will save or something?

yes fighters are one thing, you can get summons after them after paralyzing with a spell, a barbarian with high dmg resistance is a special case since they dmg resitance reduces almost all dmg.
The only will save based useful here would be hold monster, death spells are pretty much useless since fighters have high fort saves and on epic lvls saves increase faster then spell DC since wizards/clerics can increase they dc only with ability stats. psions have it easy with "class level / 2".

I made a lvl 30 barbarian for fun and equiped him with a chainshirt +3, greataxe +3 and ebelt of lesser guarding light and went after a anciend red dragon, the dragon was dead on end, even if it was close.

Nightshade · Post by **Nightshade** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:52 pm

An uber fighter with low will saves and Imm: Mind still doesn't have too much to worry about.

Sable · Post by **Sable** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:37 pm

and thats why immunity items are such a crap concept and why certain awfully coded 1st level spells should be nerfed from a great height.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:59 pm

Yes I do intend to take epic damage reduction feets, they blend nicley with the whole dragon blood thing. Same reason I took improved unarmed combat so I can use my claws