Reminder about disguises and recognition

Post by **Arkon** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 6:52 pm

This is just a friendly reminder in light of the current state of the world for people to make absolutely sure that they have and IC reason to recognize someone.

Before you automatically (metagamingly?) decide that you recognize someone, make sure they are not disguised. If they are, then you'll have to figure out who they are by some other means than the floaty over their head.

Idonia · Post by **Idonia** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:13 pm

Some people wear the hoods called "Shadow Hoods" which has the description that it obscures the wearer's face in shadow, and some people have hoods that are just helmets modified. So my question is would their modified hoods be like the shadow hoods, or just regular hoods where you can see their entire face? Half of their face? Some people I'm guessing wear the modified helmets that look like hoods and act as though it entirely obscures their face in shadow, which is true in a way because of the graphics, and no other regular hood can be made to expose the wearer's face except by the actual PC head with a hood.

Edit: Oh, and with the hoods that do cover a face in shadow, would ultravision be able to break this, or darkvision?

DM D'Artagnan · Post by **DM D'Artagnan** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:22 pm

The only hood where you can see the pc's face is the actual pc model with a hood. All others conceal the face, and darkness and ultravision cannot break through that.

Post by **Arkon** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:36 pm

Yes. Basically, anything that is put on your head that ICly obscures the face, Hoods, Helmets, etc. count as a facial disguise.

Now if that helmet is readily recognizable. (IE a known person uses a helmet that many have seen several times and they know the wearer uses that helm) That helm would not provide the needed disguise. Use common sense when making this distinction though.

Elrien Tyln · Post by **Elrien Tyln** » Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:27 pm

In reference to the hoods... I wear a modified helmet that looks like a hood and the face is of course, greyed out in shadow. However! Many times ingame El will emote that she is smirking or scowling or doing other mouth based expressions. I try carefully to not RP actions with her eyes or upper face as this would not be seen except in special cases.

The reasoning for this, was that I took the example of the emperor in Star wars Return of the Jedi:

In many shots during the movie, his mouth is just visible, as the rest of his face is covered in shadow and the big black hood.

This was my own personal reasoning for it, so I admit I was probably silly for not asking for an official decision on this.

I see the logic behind the other viewpoints though so if you think this isn't reasonable Ark, D'art, then let me know and I'll stop doing the mouth emotes.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:12 am

If you want some disguising fun, try wearing a disguise with a static model like Grovel. On the odd occasion he has worn one it was an emote horror, simply because what he wears isnt portraied on screen

Morgan has a problem with disguises too.......

I have never had an issue with you emoting smirks and grins while wearing a hood. It is quite easy to show only your mouth, or lower your head slightly and show no facial features.

DM D'Artagnan · Post by **DM D'Artagnan** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:35 am

Just to clarify. Your ENTIRE face is hidden with the hood, so the emoting you have been doing has not been seen by others. Sorry, but if you want people to see your facial emotes, remove the hood.

Dengar · Post by **Dengar** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:01 am

I always put *Under helm* so they wouldn't see it, but he , or she did smile... not like anyone would ever know

Xanthalas · Post by **Xanthalas** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 5:37 am

DM D'Artagnan wrote:Just to clarify. Your ENTIRE face is hidden with the hood, so the emoting you have been doing has not been seen by others. Sorry, but if you want people to see your facial emotes, remove the hood.

This is something that I do, Constantly, Why?
One, because I know some people balk at the thought...
Two, and most importantly,
To reflect the mood, ((mostly for the DM,)) I can have a box stapled around my head, I am -still- smiling, The DM might have some clue as to what's going on with my charactor's thoughts, Not to mention, body language and that usually helps show simple emotions like, *frown/smiles* And for the less lliterate, it would be somewhat noticable, But mainly, I just want the DM to know how My char is reacting, granted it's vague, but know my charactor enough and you will pick up on a few key things, just by habits, For example, if they were still here, one person could testify the meaning of Xai *Grinds his teeth* so rare, it' was picked up on almost immediately, ((Wasn';t wearing a helmet, but the DM might capture some nuances and might be able to tap into the supposed crazyness that is my RP, no?)

Just my own habits, As for pl,ayers reading into it, I can't avoid it if they do, and normally, they don't notice all that much anyways. Shoudl I stop? ((Honest question, please don't crucify me with this post))

Elrien Tyln · Post by **Elrien Tyln** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:03 am

Thanks d'art!

charlierazor · Post by **charlierazor** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:14 am

I think like Xanthalas said. Facial emotes while hooded are good indicators to a dm how our characters are feeling....further more, have you ever had someone stare you down, and you were not looking their direction, and suddenly you look because you can ~feel~ them staring at you? Or have you walked past someone who was very happy, but really couldn't see thier face, but knew they were happy regardless because you could ~feel~ it? Sometimes it's hard to emote exactly what your body language is.....facial emotes say alot about it.....

Personally, no you can't see my face. No you don't know who I am, but you do know how I feel.....kind of information given from player to player, and from player to dm, so that we know oocly how our characters feel, even if our characters ICly don't necessarily know. If that makes any sense....

Charlie

Post by **Arkon** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:15 am

Actually, I'm going to foil you on this one Dart.

If you are wearing a hood, YOU decide who can and can't see what you are doing under that hood.

If you emote that you are smiling, then obviously you are wanting those around you to see that you are smiling. As such it will be understood that you have the hood pulled back enough that the emote can be seen.

That's the beauty of hoods.

As a side note: If you do this, emote with a hood on, then it is entirely possible that a person next to you who knows you is going to recognize you. So if you are trying to stay disguised, my suggestion would be... don't do facial emotes.

Trinity · Post by **Trinity** » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:02 pm

*bump*