Deities on Hala

Crystalactite · Post by **Crystalactite** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:10 am

What are the main deities on Hala?

If I wrote in a fake deity or one that the server didn't have in its database, would I be restricted by spell level?

ApproachingWinter · Post by **ApproachingWinter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:44 am

Kord, Eilistraee, Olidammara...

And of course the gods of the Norse pantheon as Hala is a part of Ysgard which is based on Norse mythology.

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:22 am

Crystalactite wrote: If I wrote in a fake deity or one that the server didn't have in its database, would I be restricted by spell level?

As far i remember, clerics gain they magic on hala from the ancient tower so you dont seem to need a deity at all.

Crystalactite · Post by **Crystalactite** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:17 am

So you could be a cleric of no one? o.O;?

Gairus · Post by **Gairus** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:30 pm

Um. Originally the only cleric God on Hala was Nantes. He's very dead and things are very different now.

Post by **Arkon** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:01 pm

Currently the God Code is not active in Hala. It likely will not be added in the same way avlis did it if we add it at all. The reason being that Ysgard is an outer plane, and as such, pretty much all known gods can influence their clerics and followers in some way.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:35 pm

No clerics of Moomelia?

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:39 pm

Crystalactite wrote:So you could be a cleric of no one? o.O;?

Well it depends all on world setting, for example that in some settings druids have to worship a deity and in others they gain spells from nature. So in older times a cleric could be for example not a cleric of a god but some philosophy and beliefs too, clerits of chaos love or what ever, really dont know how it is on hala now, the old world information topics are gone.
but what i remember standing in it is that divine magic on hala comes from the ancient tower

ApproachingWinter · Post by **ApproachingWinter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:39 pm

I swear, the next person who breaks the trend of having clerics who worship Forgotten Realms and Avlis gods will have my thanks. And whoever decides to follow one of the Norse Gods is promised mucho DM attention from me (And that's a good thing!).

And it's Moomia, not Moomelia =P

ApproachingWinter · Post by **ApproachingWinter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 5:00 pm

And no, you can not recieve your powers from the Ancients Tower....unless Hala decided to break all of 3E rules.

Just think about how much fun a Cleric of Loki would be to play...

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:04 pm

or make a petitioner of odin from Norway

..or even better thor *swings a huge hammer*

Crystalactite · Post by **Crystalactite** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 7:04 pm

Ok ^^; My character follows LOKI!

http://www.giantitp.com/cgi-bin/GiantIT ... ript?SK=79 ^-^!

ApproachingWinter · Post by **ApproachingWinter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:05 pm

Deity Name - Loki
Intermediate Deity
Deity Alignment - Chaotic Evil
Clerics Alignment - Any non-Lawful
Portfolios - God of Mischief, Strife
Symbol - Red and Black Boots
Typical Worshippers - Rogues, Assassins
Cleric Domains - Chaos, Destruction, Luck, Trickery
Favored Weapon - Long Sword

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:27 pm

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/l/loki.html

Loki is one of the major deities in the Norse pantheon. He is a son of the giant Farbauti ("cruel striker") and the giantess Laufey. He is regarded as one of Aesir, but is on occasion their enemy. He is connected with fire and magic, and can assume many different shapes (horse, falcon, fly). He is crafty and malicious, but is also heroic: in that aspect he can be compared with the trickster from North American myths. The ambivalent god grows progressively more unpleasent, and is directly responsible for the death of Balder, the god of light.

Loki's mistress is the giantess Angrboda, and with her he is the father of three monsters. His wife is Sigyn, who stayed loyal to him, even when the gods punished him for the death of Balder. He was chained to three large boulders; one under his shoulders, one under his loins and one under his knees. A poisonous snake was placed above his head. The dripping venom that lands on him is caught by Sigyn in a bowl. But every now and then, when the bowl is filled to the brim, she has to leave him to empty it. Then the poison that falls on Loki's face makes him twist in pain, causing earthquakes.

On the day of Ragnarok, Loki's chains will break and he will lead the giants into battle against the gods. Loki is often called the Sly One, the Trickster, the Shape Changer, and the Sky Traveler.

According to Georges Dumézil, Loki shows a great resemblance with Syrdon, a demonic creature from Caucasian legends.

Hehe how would i love to see hala focused more on norse and ysgard self

silverdragonams · Post by **silverdragonams** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:15 pm

OK...forgive me for my stupidity, I am far from an expert on the Planes in the DnD cosmology. But it was my impression from the Manual of the Planes and Dieties and Demi Gods that Ysguard, from DnD, and Asguard (Ysguard), from Norse Mythology, are not the same thing. The former being simply based on the latter. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I know Norse Gods would fit in well in this setting...but on the other hand, how would a player who brought a Catholic Cleric into this world be treated? Or a modern Goth Pagan Sorceress?

*just playing devil's advocate*
*hopes she doesn't offend anyone by asking*

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:22 pm

Asgard is a part of Ysgard, the tree of Ygrassil that links words in norse mythology lies in ysgard and there it links the diferent planes and even prime matrial worlds.

Like arborea is not only the word of greeks, but its the place of greek pantheon and mount olymp lies there, and similar to Ygrassil it links to diferent (lower) planes.

And no, it is not the same, but its based on it as you said. Someone that makes a norse petitioner for example would not be someone from earth but rather someone from norse mythology that was addapted to DnD. Just like you can see ferun as its own mythology or avlis, mystara , it all put together makes up the planes. ((at least thats how i see it))

Just dont look at it as something historical that actually happend, in 1000 years our current religons will be only storys for evryone too and perhaps become part of futuers fantasy games.

PS. Catholic leric would not be possible anyways, since our new religions dont beliefe into magic

i remember a nice new european fantasy movie that was about how the old gods were replaced by new... and that was it, a story.

ApproachingWinter · Post by **ApproachingWinter** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:41 pm

And no. If I see any Pagan or Catholic based characters they get hit with hellballs. The Greek, Norse, Egyptian gods and several other real world pantheons have been a part of Planescape as long as any of the planes or even Sigil. And as Methael said, Ysgard is strongly tied to Norse mythology just as Arborea is tied to Greek mythology.

Crystalactite · Post by **Crystalactite** » Sun May 01, 2005 4:56 am

Some info in the world info forum would be nice ^^

tid242 · Post by **tid242** » Sat May 21, 2005 11:05 am

slave_of_emotions wrote:
PS. Catholic leric would not be possible anyways, since our new religions dont beliefe into magic

Last time I checked Chistians (including Catholics) believed in Miracles - clerical spells being only a quantified framework of such for the purposes of limiting cheeesyness for the game.

Now, one could make the arguement that for whatever diety one chooses, should he/she take the entirely secular route, it could be clamed that there are no Miracles, only coincidences attributed to whatever it is that someone believes (ie it doesn't matter *what* someone believes, only that he/she believes in *something*).

I would disapprove of most popular belief systems (save for maybe shintoism or buddhism) in game simply because said belief systems would be generally proven wrong by default as world-specific gods are known to either exist or have existed in the past. Most of the present-day belief systems are based on the "god in the cracks" ideology.

No offense intended to anyone of course, this is just my secular perception of things

-tid242

tristan_durst · Post by **tristan_durst** » Sat May 21, 2005 11:20 am

ApproachingWinter wrote:I swear, the next person who breaks the trend of having clerics who worship Forgotten Realms and Avlis gods will have my thanks. And whoever decides to follow one of the Norse Gods is promised mucho DM attention from me (And that's a good thing!).

And it's Moomia, not Moomelia =P

*Points over to his Server Arborea*

Sorry... Now to be serious...

silverdragonams wrote:OK...forgive me for my stupidity, I am far from an expert on the Planes in the DnD cosmology. But it was my impression from the Manual of the Planes and Dieties and Demi Gods that Ysguard, from DnD, and Asguard (Ysguard), from Norse Mythology, are not the same thing. The former being simply based on the latter. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

I know Norse Gods would fit in well in this setting...but on the other hand, how would a player who brought a Catholic Cleric into this world be treated? Or a modern Goth Pagan Sorceress?

*just playing devil's advocate*
*hopes she doesn't offend anyone by asking*

I firmly believe in one rule, there is no stupid question. Ysgard from D&D and From Mythology are the same place. Most of the ancient religons have had a long standing inclusion with D&D. The exceptions are the more Modern religions, such as Christianity, Muslim, Shinto, and Budiaism.

On Arborea, my CoPaP Server, the Greek, and Elven pantheons holds domains there, and even some others from Chiense, and Equiptian gods are there as well. My suggestion is if you wanted some good Background source material, throw away all the 3.0/3.5 Planar related items. They are junk. *reminds himself to be polite* Arborea, and Outlands Servers are useing a base of 2nd ed Planescape for reference. I do encourage you to read the Planescape Material, and not the 3.0 MotP. For that will give you a better understanding of D&D Cosmology.

In Cosmology Aspects Ysgard is also Between Arborea and Limbo. So Ysgards Natrual alignment is Good/Chaotic/Nuetral. The parts of the plane that touches Arborea will be more CG, while those closer to Limbo is CN. Unfortuently, it gets confusing when you through in that the plane its-self in infinitely huge.

Well that is engough rambeling, and if I overstepped my bounds Hala team let me know.

Thanks,
-Tristan

e'Kieron · Post by **e'Kieron** » Sat May 21, 2005 7:28 pm

I have a drunkard who is a paladin of Thor!

Oh yeah baby!

*ahem* Yes, well...

No, no boundaries overstepped there. Most any information is good information. Glad to have you on the boards, Tristan.

-e'Kieron

obburner · Post by **obburner** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:50 am

is there a thread that details all the deities available an Hala.. I would apprciate a link to the thread if this is one thanks

Sarmanos · Post by **Sarmanos** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:18 am

http://www.ysgardhala.org/viewtopic.php?t=1893

obburner · Post by **obburner** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:31 pm

is this the most recent? Llolth isnt mentioned. Eilistraee is not mentioned. Thank you though for putting that link here it does help slightly..

slave_of_emotions · Post by **slave_of_emotions** » Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:21 pm

Llolth is not a power in ysgard, abyss if i recall right.

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