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Coco1
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Real life comes first

Post by Coco1 »

Asben just picked me up from work, when he gave me a bit supprising and disappointing news.

Both him and i are "missing" a lot of things here on Hala, because we either log right before the quests or craft too much. Now...im not sure weather it was meant as something positive or negative, but the way he told me, it difinitly didnt sound positive.
As my name was mentioned, I sure would like to be able to defend these sentences, as i wasnt there when he was told this.

Once I was (and still are) told that REAL LIFE comes first. Excuse me, im not 16 or 19 years old. Im getting 27, and I work in the retail business as a parfume girl (not the job you want, if you want to be millionare), and has working hours that sucks.
Because im working in a warehouse, we are not sticking to the 37 hours a week, but sometimes 45 hours. Especially these last months has almost been killing me, as i sometimes work 11 days without a break - not even sunday.

Asben is 31 years old, and is a sailor - home 14 days and out 14 days. What he get of news regarding Hala, he mostly gets from me. When he finally gets home to me, we are not excatly thinking of NWN as the first thing, but each other. During those 14 days, we have to get quality time with each other, i have to work and we also want to play.

I like Hala - its the best server i have been on, and thats why it hurts me so much that i was told that we had been "missing" some quests and crafting too much.
And now ill explain why: The two times i have logged right before a quest, i had to go to bed, because i was dead tired and had to work early the next day, and since most of the events has been running at 11 pm, its too late for us, as it means we have to start at midnight, and sit up for the next hours, and be dead tired at work.
When we are crafting, it doesnt mean that we dont want to be taken any part of a quests - we just doesnt always know about it. Another thing is that we like to craft, and that by crafting you can make your own items. Now....nor Asben or I have any +3 items and since the crafting came, we decided to make them ourselves (at least some that is just as good). By saying this, it doenst mean that we sorry for not having a +3 item (its just an example of why we craft).
Im just trying to say, that its the rush about being able to make something great, that makes the crafting so fun, but it doesnt mean that we dont care about what is going on around us. For me - crafting is a way for me to relax and not thinking about the work that is waiting for me tomorrow, and i can go to bed without feeling any guilt about it.

If i have steped anyone over the toes because of this message, i do appologize, but i got very sad and fustrated when i heard this.

Thats why i want you all to know, that i might not be on that much the rest of the year, and nor will Asben. Its not because of what we have been told, but because of the work.

We are sorry,

Asben & Dala

PS. If anyone disagree with me or wants to talk further about it, then feel free to pm me.
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Post by Arkon »

Time is not an issue to be honest. Most people when they are in their homes are typically ignored by DMs because as far as I am concerned in my team, homes are generally off limits to DMs. Some exceptions are made to this but as a general rule, if I am on the server and going to do something and you are in your house crafting or whatever, then you are there because you want to be left alone... this is one reason why i was hesitant about allowing crafting placables in houses.

Now that it is known that you are open to joining in events, i'm sure you'll have people that will come "knocking" on your house doors to see if are willing to come help.

It's players responsibility as well as DMs to get other players involved in things.
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Post by silverdragonams »

I think something I said to Asben in IRC was misunderstood, and I'm sorry for that. Let me explain myself.

When you spend so much time crafting, it was not meant to be taken personally. If you enjoy crafting thats great! I spend 2 or 3 nights a week crafting weapons myself.

But when I say you are missing out, I'll give you a specific example: I had a plot idea you and Asben would have been perfect for. I logged in several days in a row ready to DM for you, and each time I did you were busy at the crafting table. It didn't leave me much room to get the plot going, so I gave it to someone else.

And if you are looking for +3 items, dont expect to get them by crafting. AFAIK, those are reserved for DM awards.

With that being said, there must be 9,999,999 things to do on Hala other than crafting. And I am a busy person IRL. I have 2 small children, a husband, and a house to keep up with. I have a ton of small projects going on, and not just with Hala or the CO. So, when something goes wrong with crafting, tell us then take a break and find something else to do. I promise I'll, or another DM, will get to it as soon as we can, but nagging us about it doesnt help.
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Coco1
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Post by Coco1 »

I am sorry that you had to give the plot idea to someone else, and it might be my mistake, i dont know, but i honestly doesnt recall that you have ever mentioned any plot idea for me, nor a tell or pm. A tell would be enough. If only i or we knew, we wouldnt hesitate for a sec, but we had no idea that you had any plans with us for any plot idea.

Regarding crafting at home...well...never thought about it that way, that it could give one the idea that you wanted to be left alone. I just did it, because i wanted to use (being around) the house to add more RP. I mean, I didnt felt there was any purpose of having put in a house, if you are never there....but i see the point, and ill remember.

Regarding the +3 items....as i said before, it doesnt mean that much to me. Its more the feeling of making something nice and maybe quite usefull, compared to what you might already have, and knowing you can soon make something a lot better, that makes crafting so great.

Thank you though for responding. That meant a lot weather it was here or in a pm.

Dala
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