How does Item Merging work?

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:21 am

Im interested in a bit of a run down on how the new holy items work. From what I see they work the following way:

I have a holy amulet that gives a +2 deflection bonus to AC. I use it on an amulet of natural armor +3 and the nat armor amulet disapers, I loos a tone of gold and my holy amulet is now +2 deflection and +3 natural armor

I have platemail +3 and a holy robe. I use the robe on the armor and now the robe has a +3 enhancement bonus, but still has the robes bace AC of 0

Is that how they work? They suck all the properties out of the target item and add them to the ones already posessed? If used again the adsorbed abilites are replaced with new ones.

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:43 am

Precisely.

The items base properties will never change, only the added enhancements of the merged item will be transferred.

So a robe will ALWAYS be a robe, even if you decide to merge "platemail of Rudeness +1" with it.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:05 am

Can we take a few magic items and put them all into one uber item?

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:40 am

From what I understand each time you adsorb an item, the properties you adsorbed from the last item are lost so you cant take the +2 from your +2 chainmail and the fire resistance from your copper plate and add them both to your robe, one will over write the other.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:52 am

So why merge items then?

Final Shinryuu · Post by **Final Shinryuu** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:07 am

Because some people would rather wear holy robes or clerical garments that are significant to their character. This makes it easier to use items like that, as you can make them into magical items.

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:14 am

At a guess the something like a holy symbol will infact be named Holy Smbol of Zod. If you are a priest of Zod and a DM catches you without your holy symbol on Zod might smite you. Also there could be some base magic on the amulet, such as cast call lightning once a day.

So if you adsorbed another amulet, say wisdom +3, you would have a Holy symbol of zod that casts call ightning once per day and grants +3 wisdom.

Also the holy items are marked as plot and such, at least that is my reading of the merging.

I quite like the idea, as an example I have a special pair of gloves that represent Morgans claws, they give some extra damage. Unfortunatly I also have gloves that give a strength bonus, so I never wear morgans gloves. If the gloves had merging I could take the strehgth bonus from the gauntles and add them to the gloves.

The same thing could be done for various guild items that would be neat to wear but you ont because you have a more powerfull item that you just have to wear instead.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:30 am

Does the item have to be a type of holy device or is that just an option?

Zombie · Post by **Zombie** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:53 am

According to the news sticky, the only items with this property are holy items for the norse gods. I can see lots of fun uses for this and hope it can be applied to some existing stuff.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:16 am

So someone who doesn't worship the norse gods cannot have their items merged?

Jskee · Post by **Jskee** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:26 am

T'Holoth Shadowborn wrote:So someone who doesn't worship the norse gods cannot have their items merged?

no, not currently.

Cat · Post by **Cat** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:41 am

T'Holoth Shadowborn wrote:So someone who doesn't worship the norse gods cannot have their items merged?

heretic, there are no gods but the norse

From what i understand you can not merge armors to robes.

So why merge items then?

Also it could allow now faction items too, and to be usefull.

Arnimane · Post by **Arnimane** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:02 pm

Holy items = plot.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:44 pm

heretic, there are no gods but the norse

There is only one God and his name is Almara.

He has a prophet too

The item merging makes sence it just sounded like the merger was for All ITEMS at first and didn't mention anything about it depending on which god you followed so I was just confused.

NWDuneAuron · Post by **NWDuneAuron** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 6:26 pm

ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED IN MY DAMN POST.

:p.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:33 pm

I couldn't tell if the two were related. Arkons initial post makes no mention of holy items, robes or gods. It looked like a run of the mill item merger.

On a note, robes don't seem too appropiate for norse gods. Armor or shields would be more intune with the aesir theme no?

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:19 pm

It doesn't have anything to do with Arkons post.

Arkons post was about Item TRADE IN
Dunes was about Item MERGING

Completely different kettle of fish.

Merging is for Holy Robes and Symbols only.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Post by **T'Holoth Shadowborn** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:21 pm

huh?

So we can still merge items together, we just can't put them into robes or holy items?

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:23 pm

Go read both posts and come back when you've read all the answers.

Dunes post is in Hala Development thread.
ONLY ROBES AND SYMBOLS CAN BE MERGED!

Drakuul · Post by **Drakuul** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:24 pm

Dune Wrote - so pay attention!

New Robes and Holy Symbols

Those of you who play on Avlis will be familiar with the Item Merging property that's been written by liephus and Deider. New holy robes and symbols of the Aesir have been made with these merging properties on them; no other gods are currently covered by this.

Snow wrote:
Each and every one of those robes and holy symbols have a special ability that can be used unlimited times per day. When you have one of them on you can activate the ability and target a non plot item of the same type in your inventory. So you can target amulets for holy symbols and robes/armors for holy robes. When you do, you will lose gold equal to two times the toolset value of the targeted item and the item will disappear from your inventory. The holy robe/amulet will have absorbed all abilities and bonuses from the targeted item and will keep those along with the powers it already had. The new holy robe/item keeps its name and description and the only thing that really changes is that it now has the special abilities of the absorbed item. It is also plot so there is no longer fear of losing it or getting it looted after dying.

Keep in mind that if two items give the same type of bonus only the highest number will count. So if you merge an item that gives +5 to move silently with a holy item that gives +4 to move silently you will only receive a +5 bonus in total and not +9.

Important: You cannot keep adding abilities to a holy symbol or robe. Every time you merge a new item into one the old items properties will be lost (and so will the item) and only the new properties and the holy item's properties will be kept.

The gods this is for currently: Odin, Aegir, Baldr, Bragi, Forseti, Freyr, Freya, Heimdallr, Hel, Idun, Loki, Sif, Thor, Tyr, Uller.

The other properties of the items are based on the power of the individual gods. These items can be obtained by asking any DM nicely, so long as your worship the god in question.

Arkon Wrote (In a completely different thread)

Announcing the first, and likely only, Hala Item Trade-In.

In an effort to reduce the number of uber items that are floating around, with the re-establishing of the links, and in order to bring CoPaP back down towards the low magic setting it was meant to be in. We, the Hala Team, will be conducting an Item Trade in.

What this means is that you, the players, will have the opportunity to turn in your extra junk, in order to gain new, and/or customized items in return. This is an excellent opportunity to lessen the load you carry with you and have in your chests.

Jskee · Post by **Jskee** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:04 pm

Can I merge two amulets of AC? say a +2 and a +3 to make a +5?

*flees cackling*

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:26 pm

Clear as mud

Final Shinryuu · Post by **Final Shinryuu** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:34 pm

The Item Trade-In is adjucated by Nob, based on your PM's to the Hala Team.

It has nothing to do with the Holy Symbols and Robes that NWDuneAuron made for all the worshippers of the Aesir gods, which can merge with one other item at a time and share properties.

T'Holoth Shadowborn · Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:56 pm

Thanks Final Shinryuu.

I remember asking that question in MIRC and being told they WERE the same which is what confused me.

NWDuneAuron · Post by **NWDuneAuron** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:10 pm

Jskee wrote:Can I merge two amulets of AC? say a +2 and a +3 to make a +5?

*flees cackling*

Keep in mind that if two items give the same type of bonus only the highest number will count. So if you merge an item that gives +5 to move silently with a holy item that gives +4 to move silently you will only receive a +5 bonus in total and not +9.

Important: You cannot keep adding abilities to a holy symbol or robe. Every time you merge a new item into one the old items properties will be lost (and so will the item) and only the new properties and the holy item's properties will be kept.